Bingo! (I forgot about mod and wrote the letters in earlier comment lol Sorry! Doug Wilson needs to shut his mouth when it comes to abuse and women. I probably have mis-interpreted my past experiences as being exactly this particular bizarre interpretation of 2nd coming of Jesus. Yes, BTDT, VERY lucky me indeed. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Mr. Wilson has been the bearer of bad news for lo these 40 years now. She is not telling the truth. He is a good man. . Even if we think that Lourdes consented (which I dont), Phillips disgusting actions are a violation of the Texas penal code. Frankly I can read academic papers about Greek and Hebrew (which are in alphabets I cant even read) and get more out of them. Im with you, Clay. Even if she does not get monetary relief, I think she will get her day in court. (discussing a lawsuit filed against Doug Phillips, et al by a former nanny) . Keep Nolan in your prayers, since as recently as 2 months ago, his mother was still supporting Phillips. Not complicated at all. I know, its so much faster and easier and cleaner to publish an article and put it on the Internet for how many thousands of people? But I hope I am proven wrong. His one daughter participates in the same subculture that I do. (dandy, fop): dude, dood Doug Wilson is a misogynistic moron. Folks with the mindset of Doug Wilson are beyond scary. So how do the headcovering folks handle this part? Marie2 wrote: 3 There was a widow in that city, and she kept coming to him, saying, [a]Give me legal protection from my opponent. 4 For a while he was unwilling; but afterward he said to himself, Even though I do not fear God nor respect man, 5 yet because this widow bothers me, I will give her legal protection, otherwise by continually coming she will wear me out. 6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unrighteous judge *said; 7 now, will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and night, and will He delay long over them? The word sweet needs to be taken out of our vocabulary when used to describe a grown woman. 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. But something either gets lost in translation, or he really is just delusional about funny he is(nt). Like many people, religious and non, [Wilson] has a picture in his head of what a rape victim is and how she should behave that bears no relationship to reality. You say that you were only going at most 30.5 mph and not 45 mph. It puts blame on her for his actions, by assuming a mutual relationship. Thank you, Rafiki, for setting me straight on the issue of whether or not people with correct shoes can help those with the dysfunctional, ill-fitting onesMaybe blurting out I only believe that someone who has been in my shoes can help me! had wrongly insulted many, but it was said out of extreme hurt and pain. Masterson was. http://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2014/03/29/attempting-to-set-the-doug-phillips-record-straight-part-3-the-timeline/. While she objected numerous times to his sexual behavior (according to the complaint), the complaint also uses phrases like she came to see her situation as abusive, he persuaded her, she continued to work for him for several years not wanting to disappoint, and so on. Saying yes to one activity once does not equal giving consent to every possible activity at every possible time before and after. It was abysmal. In my opinion he is not humble, sacrificial, or loving. I cant imagine how her children are processing all of this and what she is teaching her children, daughters and sons, with her actions or lack of actions. Ty everyone for being here. I remember the anger I felt but didnt know how to tell him to stop. I have worked with a number of teenage girls who have been through various kinds of sexual assault and rape, a lot of which they didnt realise as such necessarily as although they didnt actually say yes, they didnt say no either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjoNucs20Vw. And, thankfully, the backlash to Wilson has been vehement and loud and sustained enough, particularly from his close neighbors in his small town who actually know enough about him, to all but neuter this old bull. ), http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blbordercanada.htm. Were that the case, then I could understand pleas for a quiet resolution. I am a Quaker. Maybe its because Im a southerner, but I dont see anything wrong with it, and I havent seen it used in a bad context at all. Doug did not hear them. #AshamedToBe StereotypicalAmericanWhenItComesToMiddleEasternGeography/Culture. [14] According to The Christian Post, Vision Forum, Inc., Phillips' for-profit business, "appeared to have a liquidation sale" in December 2013. For another, a boyfriend doesnt ejaculate onto his girlfriend while she cries and asks him to stop. Lydia's Corner: Ezekiel 18:1-19:14 Hebrews 9:1-10 Psalm 106:32-48 Proverbs 27:10. Or were our biblical views of women gradually eroded by the modern feminist movement that has infiltrated the Church? R.C. He offers a dangerous and demeaning theology that has enormous appeal to men with fragile egos and weak self esteem. I have many friends who are far more eloquent than I am. Survivalblog seems to be having some server issues, so some of their info is not accessible. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.. New TWW post. @ Nancy: Phillips then began to masturbate and ejaculated on her. 2. In some ways his whole scene was really the antithesis to the empty, saccharine aesthetic of evangelicalism. is part of a long-dead movement. ALL things. Marie2 wrote: Im not sure what Mr. C was trying to convey there and I think it was very distasteful on his part. You came to Dougs dads funeral in April 2013 with some kind words. That said, however, even the devil can quote scripture and even a broken clock is right twice a day.. As I was doing research on this topic, I came across a blog post written by Geoffrey Botkin's niece, Katie Botkin. He was wandering around europe with a much younger woman and a fake name, but that was before Covid. Ive always hoped the girls were able to get out. Some where in a comment on Julie Annes blog, someone mentioned that Doug Phillips had warned his church about impending economic catastrophe. Please keep digging. Phillips victim, a sheltered 23 year old, should have known better. (I disagree about the wrongness of calling adults sweet. On Tuesday, Aug. 10, 2021, Jamie took to Instagram to announce that they are currently going through a tough period . 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. When someone is not just caught up in a cult (patriarchy), but is one of its chief apologists, the need to justify is unquenchable and the gymnastics required are manifold. Jamie and Doug proved that putting work into their relationship paid off and they are still happily married today. We have talked with a fair number of people, a couple read here, who were long part of that system and left in recent years. So, how much is Doug Phillips worth at the age of 57 years old? Me too, Hester. After years of going to them and them covering it up and choosing Doug the most powerful man in her church s side for years, she tried something else. The latter is a huge deal, taking great courage because every single thing in her life spoke against it. But you dont have to show non-consent in all cases of inappropriate romantic attention to have a rape or sexual assault case. I have enjoyed reading your insights! If VF and the Patriarchy crowd are bound and determined to keep justice away from Lourdes and all other servant-women in their movement, then they all have the right to take it to a higher court. Ive learned the hard way that you can logic your way into and out of anything (yes, Im using logic as a verb here) but it takes courage to live and lead using logic AND love, to marry the head and the heart, and to choose to protect the spirit of the person on the other side of the conversation rather than eviscerate it. Phillips resigned as president of Vision Forum on October 30, 2013 after acknowledging a "lengthy relationship with a woman" which was "inappropriately affectionate and romantic." Makes perfect sense biologically. I guess for Doug Wilson slavery in the south can be called Gospel Centered Slavery :-p. Mr. C looking like a Southern plantation owner sitting next to the African freedom fighter is actually appalling to these eyes. Also, why are all the women pictured on that blog in situations other than church, even though the headcovering verses apply only to public worship?!?! Yoopers come from above the bridge, referring to the Mackinac Bridge, which separates upper Michigan from lower Michigan. but I am sure sorry to hear your description of what is happening to people as a result of it. I met him once, in 2010, and he took the opportunity then to blow sunshine up my skirt. Getting back to Doug Wilson, he got so much commentary under his Vice, Victims, and Vision Forum post that he wrote a follow-up article entitled: Vision Forum and a Season of Meditation. Yes he is arrogant. I see this quality in the person of Jesus and its what helps me to trust Him, little by little. One is the approach that says we need to change society. Im not sure what youre getting at here. @ Hester: Wilsons charisma carries a threat of violence which is titillating for many people, I think. A 16-year-old boy is being held.. When isnt he? Or in Topkapi Palace with his locked, eunuch-guarded harem. The couple is still happily living together. The course of true love doesn't always run smooth, and the best of marriages has its ups and downs, as actress Busy Phillips, famous for her role a Laurie Keller in the hit series "Cougar Town" can attest.. Busy Philipps has been married since 2007 to screenwriter and director Marc Silverstein, and they share two children, but their relationship has gone through some difficulties. Kudos to you for your bravery to share here!!!!!!!! Im sure the consistency will help her case. In one of the links TWW provided in breaking the Wilson story, he (Wilson) and Torres-Manteufel were in 18th cent. At 57 years old, Doug Phillips height not available right now. I have known you for 23 years. It was VERY attractive. It is interesting to reflect back to what Doug Wilson wrote shortly after Phillips resigned. They couldnt care less about justice. (*spit*). Oh Phew, I love reading your posts, and everyone elses here. Along with the Duggars, hes The Face of Homeschooling and Big Families to thousands, maybe millions. But I do see your overall point Joe, or I think I do that both sides might not be disclosing the full truth of what was going on, but it is possible that Douggie has never had his logical faculties challenged before, and might not be realizing just how much he could be hanging himself by his words. Here is the story of the result of being counseled by JIM Wilson, father of Dougie W: Also I dont think its useful to frame victims as culpable when they dont get up and leave. Dont you just love how Wilson uses cad and scoundrel to describe a sexual deviant and predator? They do in PORN. There may be quite a few comments under this post. Both c ities are mostly working class with the Algoma Steel Plant and the St Marys paper mill on the Canadian side, but also have three post secondary education centers in the area. Douglas Rex Phillips, 55. This is what it means to use your power for the benefit of the other. We sent our kids to a Wilsonite classical Christian school for a few years, and after awhile we felt that something just wasnt right. An astounding proportion of pastors are reported to use porn regularly, and I would be highly surprised if Doug Phillips was exempt. Probably the theory that slavery is acceptable will be expanded as an innovation to what theorists believe are philosophical unified systems. But I dont think thats what doesnt click in my head with him. ), you can never completely shed that image. Btw, Piper thinks Wilson is brilliant and everybody around him is dumb. I think all of these arguments speak for themselves. And some of the key destructive features in the Erudite faction are: an amoral base where knowledge is valued regardless of how it is obtained, contempt, dehumanization, no true value on all human life (sort of people-as-experiments), etc. I will check in with his blog once a month or so. And they never even told her why. I think if it were me, trying the case in the court of public opinion would hardly be satisfying anyway With the idea of logic, I was thinking more about the supposed nature of education at his school and how its that classical way of thinking yadda-yadda. I mean who cares and what does it prove when you win a contest where your wife nominates you and your best buddies advertise to get you votes? I never married. some complementarians are now campaigning for the return of head-coverings for women. Wright instead). It is time to stop him from regaining his position. Younger woman and a fake name, but that was before Covid a much younger and! 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