jay. Carburetor For Score Approved Volkswagen Beetle, Vw Bug Applications. But, there will be no Power Fuel Supple Nozzle in the top, of coursemeaning that the top will block gasoline from exiting the 105-1 bottom Power Fuel Supply drilling. Having issues tuning a 30 PICT 1 carb. 28 PICT-1, 30 PICT-1 and 30 PICT-2, remove the idle mixture screw and spring. Lots of info, I learned something I didnt know. Fuel Line Input Problems Any comment? The exhaust valve then opens to allow the exhaust gases to leave the cylinder. The 28 series of carburetors also has that feature. Note that both versions appear to be similar, as far as the outside casting is concerned. I hope that I have covered the bases. The 28 series carburettor is really too small for the 1600cc engine. Both numbers are situated on the back of the fuel bowl , not on the manifold flange. Eric it would be nice if there was a print option for articles like this. Make sure that the surface of the carburetor mounting flange is smooth and not warped. The Mexican BoCar carbs are inherently faulty from the factory. I would like to put the 30 Pict-1 back on but not sure which one is the correct one. He sent to me and I am looking at it trying to figure out if it is a 1967 or 1966 and what type VW it fits on. Click now to browse VW 30/31 PICT-3 Carburetor Type 1 and 2 VW Bug Bus Ghia Amazing fashion, Amazing prices Easy Return mixiaomi.co, US $159.9 barrel screw and Gasket included Engine: Air-cooled VW Type 1 Single Port Mounting studs, VW 30/31 PICT-3 Carburetor Type 1 and 2 VW Bug Bus Ghia Affordable shipping Good design, give you boutique . Carburetor Repair Kit. this procedure also applies to the 30pict/1 and 28 series carburettors having a single adjusting screw. Its been in storage for the last several years and I want to get it running again. I appreciate all the contributions being a newby trying to keep a 1967 bug from the scrap heap. Part Number: 113129029HJB $109.95. I am still confused, and I must find out. 1. Do not close it hardjust so that it bottomsyou dont want to damage the fine tip.. Now, turn the screw out 1-1/2 to 2 full turns. The complicated-looking contraption immediately below the air cleaner is the carburettor. You might not though, as you will still be working the accelerator pump too, and any sticking might be masked by the accelerator pump linkage moving. Interesting. There is a screw at the front-top of the throttle lever which can be turned clock-wise to come to bear on the idle cam (drivers side again). There are questions enough to go around when one gets into Volkswagens. Neverthelesssince we of 1967beetle.com are concerned (for our purposes) solely with 1967 Beetles, the impact of the article is related only to the differences between the 30 Pict-1 for 67 Beetles and for 66 Beetles because they have been confused so much. The single screw in the side is called Volume screw (the larger 34PICT/3 has both Volume and Bypass screws), and it works with the idle jet to provide the correct idle mixture. Be sure to look for the stamping on the flange. Motor is a 1961 1200 cc. All Dellorto and Weber Carburetors should have 3 - 3 .5 PSI. The modern H30/31 works well too - it has a 25.5mm throat. This linkage is connected to the accelerator; when acceleration is required, the pump squirts a spray of fuel directly into the throat of the carburettor to momentarily increase the fuel/air mixture concentration. Start the DC and idle is normal without adjusting anything and reads about 850 rpm. Theres no reason for such great content to be forever lost in the depths of my inbox. It is possible that the 79 (which is missing on my charts) may fit into the scheme of things for the 66 and 67 T-2s. It may be that someone sold you a choke heater from one of the very early carburetors such as a PCI or a 28 Pict. Replace the solenoid if necessary. The engine running without your foot on the accelerator pedal is called Idling. ============================ The 65 Beetle came with the 28 Pict-1 carburetor. Keep enjoying your Manxthey have become scarce and their value is increasing! Buy Carburetor for VW Beetle 30/31 PICT-3 Engine Single Port Manifold Automatic Choke Carb with Gasket 113129029A 027H117510E: Carburetors . Note: You can test the operation of the idle cutoff valve solenoid very easily. At that point turn the screw out (counterclockwise) VERY slowly until you find the sweet spot where the engine wont run faster. The script on the decklid only says Volkswagen (The H30/31 designation comes from the fact that this carburettor is a direct replacement for both the 30-series (with a 24mm throat) and the 31-series (25.5mm throat) used on the post-1971 1300s in Europe etc. There were carbs other than the VW 105-1 which had the Power Fuel Supply drilling and nozzle. [* WordPress Simple Firewall plugin marked this comment as trash. As stated previously, before attempting to adjust the carburettor make sure your engine is warm and the choke butterfly standing upright. For more information, please see Alternator/Accelerator Pump Linkage Interference. You might just feel something if you are lucky. The carb tops are not marked to match the bottom halves. Illustration #3 shows both tops, again, but from the bottom perspective, again showing the lack of or presence of the PFS dispensing tube. Carburetor Adjusting Tool. My experience with 30 Pict-1s here in the USA also has been that there is NOT a check ball in that port. I have a 66 beetle (6V) and Im trying to restore a 47-1 30 pict 1, there is a 12V valve there guess cant be used, hard to find a 6v valve, so if not using the 6v valve, what brass jet can be used then? The 31 still fits on the smaller/older manifold, and it needs an adaptor for use with the larger manifold). Parts/Rebuild. If not, the engine will run rich at medium-high throttle. Restoring A Vintage Volkswagen Bug. More gasoline upon demand than the VW 105-1 could dispense. Just the hole size is different. The Spring was secured inside the Tube using a special Split Washer. Reason: Failed GASP Bot Filter Test (checkbox) *] VW 83-1 with the late style throttle return spring. But, you dont want to leave it hanging slack, either. And since the 28 series carburettors don't have a power jet they run the engine lean at high airspeeds through the carburettor. I KNEW that for 1966 there was no 6 volt electro-magnetic pilot jet valve (idle cut-off)that device was introduced onto the 1967 models as a 12 volt part that stopped the flow of fuel once the key was turned to the off position. I will note that I have seen 1966 non-power-fuel-system carburetors that still had the drillings in the carb body drilled out. The other problem that I have is that the car is hard to start when the engine is hot -- you have to push the gas pedal to the floor and hold it there a while before the car starts (with a little smoke from the exhaust). Are there still choke units available for this carb and if so where can I get one. Top. Made in W. Germany Runs rich - starts with stepping the pedal on the floor, keeps going if you put your foot in it and bounce it or sometimes let it kick. All allow my partner Jay Salser to comment. Keep loving your air-cooled VW, Frank! Someone informed me of such a 6 Volt ValveAND I began to find examples of this Valve here and there. Started by tmea, 07 October 2007, 04:44 . one for each intake valve, since the split occurs in the intake My neighbor has been into the VW scene here in So. The volume control screw is used to help set the idle mixture, and the bypass screw, where fitted, is used to control the idle speed of the engine. Hello, JoeWith some study, you will begin to find numerous differences between your 1966 Beetle and previous and succeeding years. I think that most switches dont care whether it is 6 or 12 volts. The breastplate is a one-year-only tin as is the air breather. Anyway, this problem is making it impossible to set the idle screw on the throttle lever, thus making it impossible to set the idle with the bypass screw on the carburettor. Under the timing light, the pulley notch is to the right side of the case seam. This should allow the carburetor to function when you start the car. 34 Series Carburettors Additional thanks to several who made contributions to: As one person commented to me, during my discovery processthis might be an advantage, given todays ethanolized gasoline. This one is very tiny! Ok - original lean jetting for the H30/31 is tipically idle 65, main 120 (or smaller), air correction 125, power jet 47.5. This carburetor is now SCORE approved for classes 1-2/1600, 5/1600, 9, 11. Unscrew the Fast Idle Adjuster (sits on the stepped cam), until it is clear of the stepped cam. Brazilian Solex uses the name Brosol, instead. Alternator/Accelerator Pump Linkage You can use SOME 30PICT/1 carburettors on a 1600cc engine. It might provide you with an extra hp or two, but not much though as it still has to pull that inlet mixture through the same (smaller) diameter inlet manifold. jay, I recently acquired my very first VW Bug. So great to see a 1967 only site. Indeedtake the 30 Pict-1 used for the 67 Beetle and the 30 Pict-1 used for the 67 Karmann Ghia and you have two carburetors with the Power Fuel System but which are differently jetted. Hello, AlanThank you for weighing in on the carburetor issues. Let us know what you discover, Russ. Illustration #4 shows identical drillings in both carburetor top halves but, again, no dispensing tube in the 66 version (left). Nevertheless, it is a valid example of the PFS for the 1967 30 Pict-1 Carburetor. The 28PICT-2 (non-USA) carb was the first to have that had a flange for to connect the arm for the later return spring up to. There you will find that the fuel supply line attaches to a tube coming out of a round metal device bolted to the engine. This is why they have complicated fuel circuits (idle, low speed and main, plus an accelerator pump) just to cope with the vacuum variation. The rest of the carburettor components are different, except for the floats, which are interchangable between the 30, H30/31 and the 34 series carburettors. Which doesnt mean that someone might have altered the carburetor, using a top from a carb with the PFS and, perhaps, even drilling the rest of the PFS to the bowl. VW Beetle 1200 and Karmann Ghia 1954-1979 John Haynes 1998-07-30 Haynes The inlet ball is hidden under a tiny threaded "plug". I encourage you to look for that stamping first. Thanks guys. jay, Hello, AlanHere goes againmy first reply was lost. What year is that ? The Engine I have is a 1973 Twin-port 1300 AB code engine. I believe that you will find that the Bocar is a Mexican equivalent of the 30 Pic-1. Turn it in slowly until it bottoms. Fit also on my manifold without problem. That presents some problems related to the use of a 009 at any time - there are discussion pages here on our site for the use of the 009 distributor. Is there a VW1500 script on the decklid? :). So.. Lets talk about how to properly install one. The bottom line is -- whatever is holding that throttle valve open, be it the valve itself rubbing against the carburettor throat, the shaft through the carburettor sticking, the accelerator pump linkage sticking -- whatever: the result is the same -- uncontrollably high idle. There are two numbers on my carburetor. I will try to find a 30, 1 or 3 pict carb instead. as stated above, when using the H30/31 on a 1600cc single-port engine with a vacuum distributor, try a 55 idle jet, 127.5 main jet and 125 or 130 air correction jet. The power jet usually looks like a brass bolt head in the right side of the carb in a protrusion heading up to the top of the carb, where the delivery tube is. And an extra bit of performance if we are using the wrong model. Youll probably need to use a pair of regular pliers to hold the end of the cable while you tighten the barrel bolt (or screwmay have one or the other). Adjusted jetting is idle 55, main 127.5 or 130, air correction jet untouched at 125, and power jet 65. Hello, again, markYou must live other than in the USA. If you do not hear a clicking sound, check to make sure there is power (12 volts) to the wire (small trouble light, voltmeter, etc.). You may find it easiest to simply note where the clamp goes on the cable end in this position (wide open), then let up on the pedal and make the connection with the system relaxed. You may need to adjust this screw once you have the air screw properly positioned. Thanks for visiting us! Engine; if it continues as a single pipe from head to head, But. Rob responded - In my experience 30PICT/2 is one of the most reliable Solex carburettors (others don't like them). Carburetors are designed to operate within a certain fuel pressure range, and if this range is not adhered to, the carbs will not operate properly. Re: 34 PICT 3 Adjustment Woes. There is a brass locating "pin" in the body (actually part of a signal system for the choke I think) which makes it easy to line the gasket up again. Doubtfulbut remotely possible. Solex 30 pict/2 carburetor adjustment procedures. This old carburetor has no way to adjust for this un . It is rather an anti-dieseling device. Please check your inbox for a confirmation email from Air-Cooled Artifacts. There are numerous 30 Pict-1 carbs, but of them, only the one stamped VW 105-1 is the factory designated one for the USA Deluxe Model 67 Beetle. And make sure the timing is not retarded from normal at all, you could even try advancing it a degree or two (say 8-9 degrees at idle), so long as it doesn't start detonating under heavy acceleration (more advance reduces flat spots a little). I apologize for the confusion. A huge thanks to Jay Salser for all he does for1967beetle.com. Stay tuned to 1967beetle.com! For example, the 30PICT/2 (1968-69) has only one adjusting screw, where the 30PICT/3 is the same size but has two adjusting screws (used in the US only - 1970 B series 1600 single port engine). I forced myself to ignore the rest of the mountain of carburetor data which concerns other models, other years and carburetors used in countries other than the USA. The normal setting SHOULD be between 2 and 3 turns out from the bottom, but if some ham-fisted PO has screwed it in HARD the tiny hole at the bottom may have been damaged and then you just have to fiddle with it until you find a smooth running position. Rob noted - I've removed the carburettor top maybe ten times and still used the same carburettor top/body gasket with no problems. We use these screws to "tune" the carburettor. Thats a complicated discussion for some other venue. splits in two on either side, you have what is called a Dual-Port The books say that with the pedal fully depressed and the cable extended forward, the throttle lever should be wide open and attached to the cable such that there is about 1mm of clearance between the throttle lever and the carburettor. This valve shuts off the flow of fuel when you turn off the engine, to prevent "running on." This is the fast idle cam, or stepped cam, and works with the choke to give a reliable idle on a cold engine. You need a partial vacuum in a carburettor to draw in the fuel from the float bowl. The screw on the top of the throttle arm controls idle speed with these carburettors (but not the 34PICT series). Receive posts from 1967beetle.com in your inbox. Dual Carburettors If left to itself, engine will die. Hello again, DanRight. On the bottom of the carburettor bowl on the left side is a large nut. The are alignment marks on the ring and canister body so you can see how much it's moved. This will allow the carb to run, although it prob. There certainly were. and where The carb was a 30 PICT 2, so when I could, I got a 30 PICT 1 105-1 for it.. $140.79: $0.00 + Sold in packs of 1 x 1: $140.79: Alternate: Quantity: Add to Cart. Once you are satisfied that the flapper is set properly, tighten the 3 screws on the retaining ring. You can find my master chart here, in MSWORD DOC format: http://members.trainorders.com/android/temp/CarbBaseFlangeNumbersA.doc. Jets Did the 105-1 carb come stock on the 1500 Euro 67 ? I speculate that this carb might have been a factory replacement unit. But it also has to operate at idle and cruising speeds. To do this, have an assistant fully depress the accelerator pedal while you adjust the cable. The cure is a few well-placed knocks with the plastic handle of a screwdriver (not a hammer!) The 31PICT/3 is a direct replacement for the 30 series, with (I'm guessing) some slight enhancements, and since the number is larger (31 v 30), the throat size is a little larger too, but not as big as the 34. With the throttle not seating properly on that side (cracked open more than the .004 it should be), it would interfere greatly with the normal idle flow in the drillings around the volume screw and idle cut off. On older model carburettors it's on the right side, and on later models it's on the left, close to the throttle arm. I drive a '67 Beetle daily and love to share vintage Volkswagen stories with the world. Someone wrote ? It produces a higher concentration of fuel ("richer") when the engine is cold, then gradually increases the concentration of air (making the fuel mixture "leaner") as the engine warms up. the head to provide the fuel/air mix to each intake valve. jay. I never cease to be amazed at the engineering which VWAG accomplished with much less sophisticated tools than are available to us today. Thank you for your patience! If you want to use a Brass Jet instead of the Pilot Jet Magnetic Cut-off Valveyou can use the 55 Brass Jetwhich simply screws into the port where the Pilot Jet Valve normally would fit. So the modern H30/31 is in fact really a copy of the 31PICT carburettor -- they have included the "30" in the model number (H30/31) to show that it replaces both the 30 and 31 series carburettors. Jeff, so you can put a 1967 pic 30 pict on 1966 bug ?but not vise a versa ? 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